You are not crazy, something is wrong with the church!
Important Questions From Church History
WHAT IS THE LORD'S ASSESSMENT
OF THE CHURCH?
Much like Christ's original Church, which, when it broke apart, had its teachings and history altered, the Church of Christ, founded by Joseph Smith, was also changed following Joseph's death. The LDS Church’s History, Tithing, the Word of Wisdom, Temples, Priesthood access, and stance on Polygamy were among the more notable alterations.
The present Church claims to be the unbroken successor to Joseph Smith’s original church, and the only true and living church on Earth, but the evidence from the LDS Church’s own scriptures and history tells a much different story. If one looks at the totality of Mormon Scripture and History, red flags and glaring inconsistencies with the Salt Lake City-based corporation’s narrative surface. When LDS Scripture and History are studied only in segments or as isolated topics, the irregularities are less obvious. The big picture of Mormonism is given on Numos.net to help those who are honest in their hearts and seeking the truth tie together key details and accurately evaluate the Church’s claim of unbroken authority.
WAS THERE ALREADY A PATTERN OF BLESSINGS, GIFTS AND APPROVAL TAKEN AWAY
Review Key Points From Church History
WHAT IS THE LORD'S ASSESSMENT
OF THE CHURCH?
BLESSINGS 7 GIFTS TAKEN AWAY
ORGANIZATION OF THE CHURCH IN 1830
A WARNING TO THE CHURCH
THE CHURCH FALLS UNDER CONDEMNATION
SPIRITUAL WIFERY IS EMBRACED BY SOME
THE CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS
The most important barometer to consider regarding the Church comes not from what we (man) think of it, but from the Lord’s own assessment. Does He put His name on it, does He give it authority, does He speak to man through its leaders?
LDS Church members assume that because their Church uses and promotes the Book of Mormon, they are approved by Him. Still, many churches throughout time have taught from and promoted the Bible, without those actions making them divinely approved. According to AI, there are approximately 45,000 different Christian denominations that use the Bible, each with its own interpretations and practices. Also, consider that there are four main versions of the Bible used by major Christian religions, each with its own translation and significant differences in the books included and the words used within individual verses.
Just within Mormonism, there have been close to 400 different churches, and today, there remain six break-offs from Joseph Smith’s original church, with the LDS or Brighamites just being one of them. Most of these six Book of Mormon-believing institutions have their own variations of Restoration scriptures and teachings. A qualifier about a sanctioned church is given in 3 Nephi 27:10, which says, “And if it so be that the church is built upon my gospel then will the Father show forth his own works in it.” Upon seeing this information, it becomes evident that the gospel and the churches are not, and cannot be, one and the same.
THE TERRESTIAL LAW IS GIVEN
ZION'S CAMP FAILURE
BUILDING OF THE KIRTLAND TEMPLE
BUILDING OF THE NAUVOO TEMPLE
DESTRUCTION OF THE NAUVOO TEMPLE
THE DEATH OF JOSEPH SMITH
THE DEATH OF JOSEPH SMITH
THE SAINTS ARE NOT PROTECTED
THE CHURCH IS REJECTED
BRIGHAM SAYS HE IS EDITING THE HISTORY
A TRANSFIGURATION NO ONE NOTICED
WAS THERE ALREADY A PATTERN OF BLESSINGS,
GIFTS AND APPROVAL TAKEN AWAY
YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS
- NO REVELATIONS, NO SEEING CHRIST-
Scriptures Referenced
An import piece of Church History is the fact that the name of the Church when founded in 1830 in New York, was originally called the Church of Christ, just as Christ's Church was named in the Book of Mormon. (Mosiah 18:17, 3 Nephi 27:8).
THE KIRTLAND TEMPLE IS BUILT AND ACCEPTED BY THE LORD
A portion of those who stay active in the church refuse to critically examine the doctrine, policies, actions, history, or church leaders, even if doubts or concerns surface. Uninquisitive members like these are referred to as TBMs, True Blue Mormons, or “No Matter What Happens Saints,” even apologists. Often when something actually does bother a TBM about the church, they claim to make a mental line in the sand, and say if it is crossed, it will cause them to leave the church. Their threats are hollow, and they recurringly move back their markers.
THE ZION'S CAMP IS NOT ALOWED TO ENTER
A portion of those who stay active in the church refuse to critically examine the doctrine, policies, actions, history, or church leaders, even if doubts or concerns surface. Uninquisitive members like these are referred to as TBMs, True Blue Mormons, or “No Matter What Happens Saints,” even apologists. Often when something actually does bother a TBM about the church, they claim to make a mental line in the sand, and say if it is crossed, it will cause them to leave the church. Their threats are hollow, and they recurringly move back their markers.
POLYGAMY GROWS, THE POOR ARE NEGLECTED & THE SAINTS PUT THEIR OWN INTERESTS AHEAD OF THE LORD
Across the theological divide, are the avid anti-Mormons who are filled primarily by those from other Christian denominations who would never seriously consider Latter-Day Saint teachings and ex-Mormons who were one-time Mormons who turned from the faith, throwing Joseph and the Book of Mormon out along with the church.
THE NAUVOO TEMPLE IS DESTROYED
Now, let me introduce you to the new kids on the block, the Numos. A huge difference between Numos and all the other groups is that they are willing to test everything and accept every truth from whoever it comes from. The Numo counterparts erroneously and/or nervously put Numos in the camp of each other’s group even though the Numos are much different and independent.
A popular Numo content creator named Justin Griffin gave an excellent example of how an individual can recognize Numo leanings in themselves at church.
Justin said, "You might believe everything the church teaches you, believe nothing the church teaches, or you believe some of the things, and that category is where I think most people are. Why do I think that? Because when I stand in front of the Elders Quorum and ask questions I would get 26 different answers from 26 different guys about what this doctrine means."
The Nauvoo Temple Destroyed by
Arsonist and then a Tornado
Numos are different in that they are willing to test everything and accept every truth from whoever it comes from. The Numo counterparts erroneously and/or nervously put Numos in the camp of each other’s group even though the Numos are much different and independent.
A Numo may be in or out of the church. Numos that stay involved in the church typically recognize problems with the church but remain involved for the following reasons. 1) They still get benefit from the church. 2) They desire to help awaken others to the things they have learned about the church 3) They do so for the harmony or overall benefit of their family. 4) They feel prompted by the Lord to stay for now.
Those who leave have almost opposite mirrored reasons why they stop attending. 1) They no longer are benefitted by the church, 2) They feel by not attending they will help others see that the church is amiss and wake up. 3) They stop for the aid to their family in learning truth. 4) They feel prompted by the Lord to separate.
Often an individual will feel the Lord telling them to do the opposite of their own desires, with someone who wants to stay being told to go and vice versa.
The Real LDS Church History
To understand how the Lord has dealt with the Church, let's look at three developments among the Saints that clearly point to where the LDS Church stands before the Lord today and help an individual undoubtedly know Mormonism’s true purpose in the past, present, and future. These consequential items are found in the following:
1) The Name of the Church.
2) What the Saints did with their opportunity when given the Terrestrial Law.
3) The results the Lord placed on the Saints following how they lightly treated the gospel.
THE CHURCH OF CHRIST BECOMES THE CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS
MORE ABOUT NUMOS
A Numo is a label coined off the cuff by Kwaku El (Mormon YouTuber/podcaster) during a Midnight Mormons/Ward Radio episode while interviewing a popular Numo named Justin Griffin. The nickname name Numo stuck. The name of this episode was "The New Mormon Offshoot in Town, "The Remnant" (feat. J. Griffin, Director, Who Killed Joseph Smith". This video is an excellent introduction to Numos and their beliefs. (View Here)
As the episode's title states, Remnant is a more scriptural descriptive name used for the movement. However, a different group with similar thoughts, led by a former LDS member named Denver Snuffer, also uses the label Remnant. Remnant Numos are sometimes confused with Denver Snuffer's group, which is why the nickname Numo has gained traction.
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To explain the label Numo or Remnant we need to point out changes that took place over time giving place for a label like Numo / Remnant in Mormonism.
The name of the church in the Book of Mormon was at times called the Church of Christ (Mosiah 18:17, Mosiah 25:18-22) . In 1830 when the church was organized by Joseph Smith it was again called the Church of Christ. Evidence of this can be found in the first scripture and tracks produced follow the church’s establishment in the Book of Commandments ( pic) which would later become the Doctrine & Covenants in 1836.
Numo describes a person with Mormon beliefs who has awakened to the understanding that early Mormon history and teachings often differ significantly from what the modern LDS Church asserts. A Numo, on this discovery, does not throw out the baby with the bathwater, becoming an Anti-Mormon like many others. Instead, the Numo maintain their faith in the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith while distancing themselves from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. For a Numo, this starts a time of soul-searching, study and prayer. The Numo becomes like Lehi, who was shown the wickedness of Jerusalem in his day and told to go into the wilderness by the Lord.
Numos go through a similar wilderness experience, potentially grower closer to God while relying on Him and less on the church.
Numo describes a person awakened to the understanding that early Mormon history and teachings often differ from what the modern LDS Church asserts. Still, unlike the Anti-Mormon, Numos treasure the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith. (cut)
Kwaku El did not specifically define a Numo. Still, others have tried to attach more precise identifiers and give meaning to the name, such as New Understanding (Nu) Mormons or Nuanced Mormons. Despite some efforts, there are no formalities or exacts within the growing Numo community, which also has no formal leader, organization, official doctrines, or rules of being a Numo. This site is not an official Numo site and is solely an attempt to help others get introduced to this awakened community and to aid Numos in their pursuits.
The term Numo, like Mormon, is a nickname. A Mormon is a believer in Christ. The Book of Mormon was compiled by a man named Mormon but is a record of Christ and Christians in Ancient America. A more accurate description of who the Numos are comes from the Book of Isaiah in the Bible, which labels those who successfully go through a Numo-like experience as Remnant.
The Remnant is prophecized to be believers who will be drawn out of churches by the Lord.
Members of the church in 1830 were given the nickname Mormons due to their acceptance and use of the Book of Mormon. Those who did not regard the Book of Mormon as scripture or Joseph Smith as a prophet were known as Anti-Mormons. The name Jack Mormons was given to those while not accepting the Book of Mormon or Joseph Smith but were kind and supportive. Later the use of Jack Mormons itself evolved into being associated with Mormons which did not follow the church’s modern Word of Wisdom teachings.
Numos are not the Remnant that the Lord that will call to go on an exodus to build Zion, but many that are selected to be apart of the exodus Remnant will have been Numos because of their early awakened state where they have had more time to prepare to be worthy and understand the pure gospel that will govern Zion.
Numos have no leader, no official organization and no consensus beliefs. Numos are basically people of the Restoration communities that have become spiritually awakened to teachings that Zion will be built by individuals God chooses and not by churches or men. Numos are a people in the wilderness preparing themselves and being prepared by the Lord to possibly one day be apart of the great End Times Remnant Exodus to build Zion prior to the Lord's Second Coming.
Numos are not associated with the current Remnant Church, Denver Snuffer or other groups but do share some beliefs.
